The Better Together Podcast with Callie and Rosario "Roz" Picardo
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The Better Together Podcast with Callie and Rosario "Roz" Picardo
#178 Allyce Fogule-Logue: Heaven's Ache
We live in a culture that numbs pain instead of naming it. When life unravels through loss, trauma, or burnout, we’re often told to “move on,” “stay positive,” or “just have more faith.” But what if the way forward isn’t denial—it’s lament?
In this episode, pastor and writer Allyce Fogle-Logue joins us to talk about her new book Heaven’s Ache—a forty-day journey through the Psalms that reclaims lament as a sacred rhythm for the soul. Born out of her own season of grief, Allyce invites us to rediscover the language of honest sorrow, where we can bring our pain before God without pretending everything’s okay.
Together, we explore why lament isn’t weakness but worship, how it helps us process loss with hope, and why the Church needs to recover this forgotten practice. Whether your wounds are fresh or long-hidden, this conversation will help you lament like you mean it—and encounter the God who meets you in the ache.